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He`s only -- this little boy is only four years older than my grandboy. And you know, they`re lucky that he`s alive, you know, because most 14-year-olds are not found alive. But I`m very angry that, you know, the little boy was probably a virgin. And they`re calling this -- and she said, We were in love. This child knew that something felt good to him, and he was too afraid to say anything, so she continued. We are taking your calls regarding a case where a 37-year-old mother of three launches into a sex affair with her son`s 14-year-old best friend. And to you, Bret Larson (ph), investigative journalist. BRET LARSON, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST: Yes, well, the marriage went down in I guess the only way it could. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) GRACE: We remember American hero, Marine Lance Corporal Thomas Rivers, Jr., 22 Birmingham. Loves scuba, hunting, football, parents Tom and Sharon, sister, Rachel. Clark insists she had no idea her now-husband was 15.
With one of those babies now placed in foster care, she still can`t understand what she did wrong. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: First, my comment is this woman, she doesn`t know what she did wrong? One of the children is actually with one of Clark`s former co-workers, who took custody of the child while Clark was incarcerated. RANDY KESSLER, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, you know, this is crazy that a 14-year-old boy and 37-year-old woman can`t now be around their children when, you know, they`re old enough.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They`re making a big deal out of a 15-year-old. Ninette, Ninette, I`m a big admirer of yours, but right there at the very beginning -- "start a relationship." You cannot have a sex relationship with a 14-year-old boy. The other child, the younger daughter, Star (ph), is with Clark and the teen, who is now, I believe, 22 years old. Joining me, Elizabeth Beach, Dallas, Randy Kessler, Atlanta, Anahita Sedaghatfar joining me from LA. I don`t understand the laws being equally applied to a 14-year-old boy and a 37-year-old woman just like it was a 60-year-old man and a 4-year-old little girl. GRACE: OK, I don`t really understand what you`re even talking about.
You can stop saying 15 to try to make it in somebody`s eyes, not mine, a little bit more palatable by saying 15 because he wasn`t 15, Kessler. So basically, you go to three years of law school, you practice, what, 20-something years law, and your legal response is, It`s not fair? You are the attorney in the Mary Kay Letourneau case, Anne. GRACE: You know, Anne, the two children that they are raising together -- when Mary Kay Letourneau was behind bars, didn`t -- his name is Vili Finnow (SIC), correct? GRACE: Now, how did she -- did she get pregnant with the second child when she got out? BREMNER: Yes, she got the so-so (ph), which is an alternative sentencing option in Washington state. GRACE: Now, wasn`t that when the police caught her in the car having sex with him when she had just gotten out of prison? (COMMERCIAL BREAK) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They don`t want us to be happy. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Lisa Clark, arrested after marrying a 15-year- old. This is exactly why we have to have this kind of law. And even after they`re caught and sentenced and go to prison, she still is insisting that he was not a victim and that she did nothing wrong.
She spent seven-and-a-half years in prison, and then ultimately, when she got out, they were both of age, and they`re raising two children that they have together. (LAUGHTER) GRACE: I`m just going to go with the first name, all right? GRACE: While she was behind bars, his mom raised the infant, correct? And ultimately, they all worked it out at the end of the day. And at that point, they didn`t know she was pregnant, but they found out pretty quickly. ELIZABETH BEACH, ATTORNEY: I think it is very interesting that she continues to say that the 15-year-old is not a victim and that she didn`t do anything wrong. We hope that adults will be responsible, but there are people like Clark that think they`re entitled to have sex with a 14-year-old. ANAHITA SEDAGHATFAR, CIVIL ATTORNEY: Yes, Nancy, I`m not saying what this woman did was right.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And Clark says she believed he was at least 17. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But regardless of what anyone thinks or says. GRACE: All right, so what I don`t get, then, Matt Zarrell, is how can she claim she didn`t know how old he is when -- OK -- when he`s in school with her son. In fact, it was the teen`s grandmother who actually informed Clark that the boy was actually 14 and not 17.
She insists she did (ph) know her husband was 15 about the same time she found out she was pregnant. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`m happy but -- and he`s happy.
Return to Transcripts main page NANCY GRACE Mom of 37 Has 14-Year-Old Boy`s Baby Aired November 13, 2012 - ET THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. Because she marries a 14-year-old boy, her son`s best friend. And my question is, where are the children involved in all of this? Because they`re obviously being affected by all of this. Where are her three older children from her first marriage, and where are the two brand-new babies she has with the 14-year-old boy?
THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED. A mom of three makes headlines around the world when she remarries and gives birth to two new children. And now she`s got two new babies with the 14-year- old. Where are her older children and now the younger children? ZARRELL: OK, let me start with the children with the 14-year-old boy. Just because someone happens to be one year younger -- if he was two years older, we wouldn`t even be here.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And Clark says she believed he was at least 17. I wasn`t even comfortable in public with him at first because of his age. When you are uncomfortable in public for the world to see your mate or your spouse, then there`s something wrong. To Matt Zarrell, explain to me the whole scenario of how she gets behind bars. How does she get pregnant a second time if she was behind bars? And the statutory rape, like we said, by dictate of age you`re guilty.Tags: Adult Dating, affair dating, sex dating